Sherlock Holmes and the E-mail Mystery

by Ann O’Brien Ahmad

ASAK. I wrote the post “Groupthink and Other Strange Phenomena” hoping that it would cause the Administration to reflect on how the organization is being run. But apparently at least the Vice President has more important things to do, like monitor how Mansoor and I use our e-mail accounts. Since the Vice President’s e-mails exhibited such great investigative reporting, I thought I should share them with the community.

After the Vice President sent an e-mail to Mansoor to an address that we do not regularly monitor (it is the address Mansoor uses to send out bulk e-mails but does not use for incoming e-mails), Mansoor sent the following response to the Vice President on November 6:

Majid,
Please use this e-mail address when contacting me:
mansoor@icgnews.com
I do not monitor the other account often.
Thanks.
Mansoor Ahmad

This e-mail address is the one Mansoor has been using for the past 20 years and is the one that the Vice President sent 206 e-mails to over the past three years. On the same day, the Vice President sent this response to that e-mail (if someone can explain to me why he just didn’t stop after the first paragraph, I would really appreciate it):

Mansoor,

Thank you for providing the information, and clarifying your email address use.  I will use your other email address for future correspondence.

Nevertheless, since my original email dated 9/20/12 regarding <info removed for confidentiality purposes>, I have received 3 emails from you from the address that you stated that you “do not monitor” often:

10/3/12            Expansion plan update

10/20/12            Expansion plan update

10/25/12            Expansion plan update

Assuming you looked at my email on 10/3/12, it’s been roughly 33 days since then; since 10/25/12, it’s been roughly 12 days.  I ask that you try to respond sooner than 12-33 days with regard to matters that are financial with respect to the masjid.  Since you have been of the board, this year we have cut significant costs in order to save the masjid money and close possible deficits.  One significant cost, as you well now, is printing costs related to the newsletter.

Assuming you have NOT accessed your gmail account since my 9/20/12 email, as a courtesy, I’ve looked in the your potential email compromise matter a little and come up with some information you may find helpful:  somebody has illicitly accessed your account and is sending out spam emails from it without your notice.  I’ve noticed, also, that each of those emails has your wife Ann’s gmail address cc’d (ann4527@gmail.com).  From this gmail email address, Ann has sent out 3 emails:

10/9/12            Expanison plan update

10/31/12            Expansion plan update

11/5/12            The future is in your hands…Vote for Fasahat Hamzavi, Wajahat Khan, and Asim Shuttari

(Curiously, the 10/9/12 email sent by Ann had you, Mansoor, as the author of the email, with your cell phone number name at the end.  Maybe you sent that email using Ann’s account by mistake.  Who knows.)

In any case, I would seriously look into whether or not your gmail account has been accessed by others other than you.  Whoever is doing it, he (or she) is sending out emails to a wide group of people.  I’ve copied your wife Ann, since she has herself received each of those emails you may not have sent out.  

Thank you, Imran, for putting together all the information in your email.  You do a lot of work for the masjid as treasurer, all of which is volunteer.  It’s a major sacrifice, which goes unnoticed.  Sadly, IAGD has paid significant sums to others for services that pale in comparison.

Thanks for your attention, everyone. Make sure to vote.  We want people leading our country who are looking after the interests of the many and not the few, doing public service for the public good and not out of ego.

wasalaam

Majid 

For some reason, the Vice President chose to copy me on this e-mail, which included confidential financial information that I had no business seeing.

Strong believers in the Persian proverb “Silence is the best response to a fool,” Mansoor and I decided to send no further e-mails to the Vice President and removed him from our bulk e-mail list. After discovering that we had sent out a bulk e-mail and that he did not receive it, we received this e-mail from the Vice President on November 9:

It has come to my attention that at approximately 1pm yesterday afternoon, Mansoor/Ann sent out an email using Mansoor’s gmail account (that Mansoor states he “do[es] not monitor … often”) with the subject entitled “The Community’s Responsibility…”.  Mansoor/Ann, therefore, used this account twice in a span of 2 days.

Oddly enough, however, I did not receive yesterday’s email.  In the past, I was getting each and every one of Mansoor/Ann’s email in triplicate, to 3 differently email accounts I have.   Yesterday, I received none.  Not one email to any of the 3 accounts I have.

So, to recap: I send out emails to Mansoor/Ann over many months about various issues and get no response.  I am told indirectly (in a response to Imran’s email, which was asking the same thing I asked more than 6 weeks earlier) that my lack of a response is because Mansoor/Ann doesn’t check that gmail account.  When I point out in detail how Mansoor/Ann has actually used that very account at least 3 times over a roughly 7 week period, Mansoor/Ann’s response is to ignore me and not acknowledge a bald faced lie.  Then Mansoor/Ann has the gall, 2 days after I explain in detail that he/she does in fact use that account with reasonable frequency, to send out another email using that gmail account, only this time my email addresses (3 of them) seem left out.  Is this coincidence, Mansoor/Ann?

Few questions, then, Mansoor/Ann: 

1. Am I missing something here as to this strange behavior regarding the frequency of your email account usage?  Please explain.

2. Was I removed from your email list?  If so, was I removed inadvertently or deliberately as a form of retaliation?

3. If I was removed, can you please add my email back to your email list? Just one of them is fine, I don’t need all 3 added.  I find your mass emails a joy to read.

4. MOST IMPORTANT: Where did you compile your email address bank?  Did you use IAGD resources in doing so? If so, was permission given to use it and can you please provide proof of this? If not, I ask that you refrain from using any email address that was obtained by way of an IAGD list.  Consider yourself warned on this.

In short, Mansoor is obnoxious and immature (see prior email sent on Thursday 11/8/12 at 9:36pm), Mansoor shamelessly lies (prove me wrong on this count with regard to the frequency of your gmail account use), and now it seem as though I am no longer on his list.  That’s retaliatory and vindictive.  

Needless to say, I am angry and amused that Mansoor can ignore my requests for information, lie as to why he is ignoring me, and then contradict his own lie 2 days later.  There’s tragedy, but this is farce.

Mansoor/Ann, please explain your erratic behavior and please put me back on your list if I am now off it.  I am opting into it, instead of you sending it to me without permission.  In addition, I would request an answer to my 3 other questions. An answer to question #4 is most important to me, as I would like to know if proper permission was obtained, if applicable.

Looking forward to your prompt reply.

wasalaam

Majid

Really, he has nothing better to do than complain at length because we removed him from our bulk e-mail list? Why doesn’t he use all this energy to answer the questions presented by the community when the petition was given to the Board? And where are the President and the other Board members? Why aren’t they stopping this ludicrous behavior?

The Vice President sent three other e-mails after this, all of which we have totally ignored. Seeing that we weren’t responding to his e-mails, the Vice President went up to Mansoor while he was sitting in the masjid and grabbed his knee and shook his leg, trying to start a physical confrontation. He tried to physically confront Mansoor once before, at the Hajj seminar, and Mansoor ignored him.

Obviously, the Vice President is not getting the not so subtle hint, so let me state it very clearly: we don’t want to deal with the Vice President by e-mail, in person, over the telephone, or by any other form of communication until he learns how to properly address senior members of the community.

This is a multi-million dollar religious organization. It should be run professionally. This type of disrespectful, inappropriate behavior should not be condoned.

Perhaps it’s time for the entire Board to obtain training in acceptable behavior. I just received an e-mail this week for an online webinar on December 19 entitled, “Eliminating Unacceptable Behavior: What Supervisors Need to Know.” The one-hour webinar promises to:

  • Effectively handle “attitude problems” and “rule breakers”
  • Tackle unacceptable behavior in your workplace fairly and legally
  • Take control of your toughest performance and conduct problems
  • Increase team productivity: The Do’s and Don’ts of Motivation

For those interested, here is the link to the webinar:

http://www.execonlinecertification.com/2J6/0/2/p9UJJSc/p83W9DNUi/p0e/

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38 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Anonymous on November 29, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Either the V.P. is botherd by your Blog and the e-mails to the community very much or he is put up for this by somebody and getting used for no reason. What goes around comes around. Today he is doing to you, tomorrow he will be doing to the people who put him up to this or somebody will do to him. His behavior is very strange. It is very disrespectfull to you and to the position he is holding at IAGD. You are absolutley right that if he was working at a corporation he would have been fired immediately. Who knows may be this is how he treats his parents too.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on November 30, 2012 at 12:36 am

      Yes brother you are right ,it’s a matter of time one day his own kids specially girls will disrespect him like this.
      Be aware Mr.VP Allah swt curse 7 generations and bless 7 generations for the deeds of parents.You weed whatever you sow.
      What is the thing you are so proud of…the vice presidency of IAGD????

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  2. Posted by Anonymous on November 30, 2012 at 12:26 am

    Is he insane or what? Looks like Mr. Vice President has gone totally out of his mind.
    I didn’t find any logic or point in his complains. People can have more than one email accounts but usually everybody uses one account more frequent. Also it is a very common practice that husband and wife uses either the same address or they open each others, so is it illegal???
    Mr.Vice president sounded very arrogant in his mails, I can’t believe how ugly personality he has from inside.
    This s really shame on us that we as community had elected an inappropriate person for VP of an Islamic organization, who doesn’t even have manners to talk to elders.

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  3. Posted by Anonymous on November 30, 2012 at 11:18 am

    BOD need to understand that they accept these positions to serve the community and to please Allah (SWT). They should be humble and very respectful to the community members. Unfortunately he is not the only one on the Board behaving like this. There are couple more just like him and they always support each other. May be that’s how they were raised.There is a saying ” like father like son.” May Allah (SWT) gives them Hadayat and they learn to respect there elders.

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  4. Posted by Anonymous on December 1, 2012 at 12:05 am

    When Br. Mansoor stated that he doesn’t use one of his email so often and only uses it for sending bulk emails then why VP is deliberately accusing him of lying. Why it is so hard for Mr.VP to just send the email to the other address.
    May Allah swt give these people some intellect.

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  5. Posted by Anonymous on December 1, 2012 at 12:14 am

    The BOD and BOT are definitely really very annoyed because Sr. Ann started this blog , as this is the place where community is sharing their input & thoughts. They are really scared of that, as they never gave this independence to community, they always imposed their decisions with out getting the community’s will.
    That is why this establishment is harassing both of you by any means.
    But they should keep in mind that when Allah swt will start harassing them then nobody can protect them.

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  6. Posted by Anonymous on December 1, 2012 at 1:12 am

    God is great. How arrogant can you be. Sr. May be you should post all his E-mails. I am sure they will be interesting to read. Some people only learn the hard way. In Urdu there is a saying ” Laaton ke bhoot Baaton se naheen Mantey.” You said he wrote three more E-mails. Where is the President on this. Should’nt he step in and stop V.P. from doing this. May be he is also part of this game they are playing. I don’t blieve that he can confront Br. Mansoor. I think they are trying to provoke him.

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  7. Posted by Anonymous on December 1, 2012 at 1:24 am

    Br. Mansoor keep your cools and just hang in there. Allah (SWT) is with you and will give you lots of reward. So far you and your wife are doing a great job and the Administration can’t stand it.

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  8. Posted by Anonymous on December 1, 2012 at 11:53 am

    “Silence is the best response to a fool,” I love it. In the past few months, I have learned so much from this Blog that I can not thank you enough. The reason Mr. V.P. is keep on bringing you in his e-mails because he is trying to intimidate you. He should know you better by now that you are too intelligent for that. But then again like you said he is nothing but a fool. Even the way you put this post up about him shows your intelligence. If he had any sense at all he should stop this nonsense and not embarase his parents and his family in front of the whole community. I personally know his parents. They are decent people and they don’t deserve this. Once again thanks to you for your hard work and being pacient. Allah will reward you for this and the IAGD community loves you. Keep up the good work because in the long run it always pay off. My regards to Br. Mansoor for keeping his cools. It must be very hard for him to tolerate this kind of nonsense coming from Mr. V.P. After all he is nothing but a kid to him. Mr. V.P. don’t forget it is Uncle Mansoor to you and it’s time for you to grow up.

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  9. Posted by Lassi on December 2, 2012 at 12:26 am

    “Really, he has nothing better to do than complain at length because we removed him from our bulk e-mail list? Why doesn’t he use all this energy to answer the questions presented by the community when the petition was given to the Board?”

    That was kind of awesome Sr Ann!!!

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  10. Posted by Abdullahiagd on December 2, 2012 at 1:11 am

    Sister this is clearly backbiting and does not add to the purpose of the blog…Which I hope was the the controversial expansion plans and not carrying out a personal agenda. I always thought that you were above such politics. I sincerely hope that you will repent and remove this letter from your blog.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on December 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm

      How’s it backbiting when she posting it on the Internet for all to read? Does the blog restrict anyone from viewing the article? She’s not calling family’s within the organization and making up rumors. Although your concerns are that the post is too personal, you have to realize that this is the VP of a multi-million dollar Islamic organization responding to long time members in a official capacity. Whose actions are more jaw-dropping?

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    • Posted by Anonymous on December 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm

      Brother Abdullah when somebody is a public figure and is in community service, his actions are accountable in front of community, and if you open up his reality in front of people then it is not backbiting. Go and ask about this situation to any imam or scholar.
      Can you please check the WORDS that Mr.VP used for Br Mansoor and his wife.
      Doesn’t look like he ever went to a school or learned any manners.
      He should not be the VP of this organization anymore. Why the president and trustees not taking any action against his VP, but I forgot how they will take action against him as they all are part of this game.

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      • It is backbiting because the faults of a Muslim brother is discussed publicly. It is wrong to bring up of the faults of a brother in Islam…We all have many faults, including the writer of this comment and creators of this blog…..we should strive to hide each others faults as we hope to hide our own faults.
        As Abu Huraira reported:
        The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said, “All of the Muslim is sacred to another Muslim: his wealth, his honor, and his life; it is sufficient evil for one to despise his brother Muslim.”

        [Sunan Abu Dawud, Book of Manners, Number 4882, Sahih]

      • Posted by Anonymous X on December 3, 2012 at 12:06 am

        So, was it backbiting for the BOT to send out an 11 page letter that defamed individuals by name? Was it backbiting for the President and Vice President to send an email to the community (not just the membership) with their harsh and un-investigated remarks about one individual? Is it appropriate for a person in a leadership position to be allowed to continue bad practices without criticism or correction? We all need to be careful about backbiting and two wrongs do not make a right. But explain, then, how we correct leadership without criticism? How do we let those in leadership roles know they need to change their ways?

      • Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 1:42 am

        That’s like sayings it backbiting to write anything about the numerous murders Saddam Hussein committed. If you want to be an authority figure be prepared to be under the spotlight.

  11. Posted by Anonymous on December 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    asallaamualykum sr. ann and br. mansoor,

    we must not forget the root cause of this movement, to save the masjid and to have it not converted into a social hall. This is our purpose. They will try to provoke us, anger us, frustrate us and are waiting for us to slip so that they have a legit reason to not listen to our voices. they are trying to make us forget the purpose of this movement. We must not let incidence like this bother us. we need to focus on the goal. We have to keep our cool, and be ready for their dirty games. This is what the quraish did with the Prophet (pbuh). they tried to assasinate his character, murder his family members, offer him the world, but no his purpose was 1. we must do the same and follow his example.

    i would advise you to take this article down, and be ready for their fight. you all are on the forefront and the community is behind you. what you do and how you react is pretty much representing the community who is backing this movement. 1 slip and the masjid will be converted into a social hall, wa na awoothubillah…. i advise you all to keep your cool, not be provoked and be ready for their dirty games.

    wsallaam,

    your brother

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  12. Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 12:00 am

    I have intentionally not been monitoring this blog for several weeks now- I felt it best for me personally to separate from the emotionally charged issues. But after hearing about this posting I decided to see for myself. While I fully support the initial objective of this effort – I struggled with the unnecessary negativity & attacks from both sides.

    The emails sent to Br. Mansoor were presumably not intended for public consumption. Assuming they are accurate, even if the VP exercised poor judgement in sending an emotionally charged series of emails- I feel the reaction may have been just as inappropriate. Posting them for all to see & cast judgement on is not helpful or productive. It simply riles up people who are already disenfranchised. There was an opportunity to respond in a more just manner – and unfortunately that option was not pursued. I believe Sr. Ann, Br. Mansoor AND Br. Majid have all dedicated themselves to the service of this community – and certainly all have made mistakes (who doesn’t from time to time?). Please don’t let this community follow the lead of our US Primary elections – littered with personal attacks that do not enlighten, rather they incite & ultimately bring the discourse down to the level of the most ignorant of the ignorant. We are all better than this. I feel this post was a mistake made by an individual who is known by many to be above this. This is an example of the potential pitfalls of social media. Pick up the phone or meet in person. You are truly all better than this & it is not too late to take a different, more civilized & productive approach. Any one of us could make the same miscalculation- so I offer this as a humble reminder to get back to being the dignified individuals you are at your core. You know our children will learn how to agree & disagree from us. Please lead them to the higher ground.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 1:31 am

      As stated in the article “For some reason, the Vice President decided to copy me on this e-mail” which if I’m not correct he sent them to sister Ann who has no official position within the organization. So maybe he should watch what he says in his emails, especially when adding individuals to email chains insulting the efforts he/she made to the organization.

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  13. I agree with the person above who appreciates all the three mailing parties in the question above. Even though there was personal attack & defamation attempts made from both sides there is still time to save the higher cause of masjid than the mud wrestling. The higher self respecting and wise party will stop first in the name of the cause. Please stay on the topic, tempting it may be but avoid distraction that might result in lack of interest due to short attention span of the masses.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 1:17 am

      Please tell me the “personal attack & defamation attempts from both sides”? It was rather one sides wouldn’t you say?

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      • Br Majid’s threatening emails and Br Mansoor’s reaction by putting it on this blog is exactly that__ to be short. One of the solution(before the authorities step-in) I believe, is to avoid locking your thoughts on one person but instead widen your horizon of progress in more good activities, at least to take a break from harmful effects of such confrontation. I would take the steps that contain an ugly situation than the one that project it, like avoid resigning from a post, spreading emails with the stories or proofs of confrontations, taking any repetitive & persistent action when there is no response from the target party. Now even the public has started calling & referring in their posts by name & worst__ including their parents, children, spouse, work colleague, friends’ for derogatory references, including future of kids and past of parents. That’s terrible for the new generation to read or watch. Just like you don’t care about who is at fault in kids fight, you just like to see it ends soon, same goes with public when they see higher-up in similar struggle of the sort. All is good if it ends in good! and this is not good at all.

  14. Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 2:27 am

    Brothers and Sisters,I personally talk to Br. Mansoor and he tod me that his wife wrote two e-mails to the President and requested him to talk to his V.P. and stop him from including her in these e-mails because she has no role in administration and she is not even member of any committee. Br. Mansoor himself wrote two e-mails to the President and requested him to talk to Majid Khan and stop him from writing these e-mails because Br. Mansoor had no intention for responding to him. They did not get any respond from President and V.P. kept on writing the e-mails. Then on Friday while Br. Mansoor was sitting in the Masjid talking to some brother Majid and Fawaz both came up to Br. Mansoor and Majid Khan tried to start a physical confrontration. After talking to his wife Br. Mansoor wrote another e-mail to the President the same day and resign from the committee and again requested the President to talk to V.P. and ask him not to contact Br. Mansoor at all. No response from the President but the V.P. was in action again and wrote another colorful e-mail to Br. Mansoor and his wife. After trying so many times with the President they had no other choice but to put it on the Blog.

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  15. Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 9:50 am

    I only see attacks from one side. The other side is not even responding. When the President and the Vice President of an organization are writing it becomes public information. The recipient can use it any way he or she wants. Specialy in this case looks like Br.Mansoor and his wife begged President to stop his Vice President and had no other choice. If you ask me looks like the President was also part of this game they were playing. It looks like they were trying to provoke Br. Mansoor and his wife but could not succeed. Br. Mansoor and his wife were too smart for them. I bet you the Vice President will think twice before he writes an other e-mail like this and other BOD will be careful too. God is great.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm

      This is not it… MashaAllah Mr.VP has already written same fashion emails to some other long time members too, in which he used the same kind of vocabulary.
      This is like a copy of that to Br.Mansoor.
      And if you want to know from where Br.Mansoor compiled his email bank, please answer one more question that in recent election WHO gave the members cell phone numbers to one of the establishment’s candidate, upon asking that who gave you these cellphones he replied “masjid”. It proves Who is shameless????

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  16. Lol probably the same, person using different identities
    We must remember that we must be the better man and not respond to other peoples’ injustices by stooping to their level and taking revenge.
    Regarding peoples’ faults, we all have many weaknesses…including the writer of this comment and the creators of this blog, namely Mr. Mansoor Ahmed.
    I wouldn’t wish for anyone to reveal my faults to others and I know that Mansoor uncle wouldn’t want others to reveal his faults either.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on December 4, 2012 at 1:30 pm

      Brother! Everybody has weaknesses and does mistakes but after a mistake if you resist to accept and keep on insisting that you are right is the sign of arrogance and that is the quality of shaitan not momin.
      Over here Mr VP s behavior is very arrogant, and he is being rude and unreasonable to everyone in the community since few months, I myself is a victim too.
      He thinks he will always remain in power so he sounds vey proud, but every arrogant person should remember that Allah swt is the THE ULTIMATE SUPREME.

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  17. Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Brothers and Sisters One more thing, Br. Mansoor also showed me the other three e-mails that V.P. had written to them and I read those, blieve me they are as bad as these two on the Blog, may be even worst than these. The President was not intervening and Br. Mansoor and his wife didn’t know what else to do. Sr. Ann posted this on the Blog with the hope that either V.P. will get the massage or somebody from the community will talk to him and put some sense into him. Looks like so for it’s working.

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  18. Posted by Anonymous on December 3, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    yall niggaz aint got no real game in politics, have to stoop down to local masjid politics….h aha, this is sign of qiyamat, i’m an outsider of this community looking in, and i’m laughing and crying at the same time….Just fuss up and stop them from replacing the musullah, khalas, game over, no more snooping in each others emails, no more detective work and picking up each other dirty secrets, just save the masjid.

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  19. Posted by Anonymous on December 4, 2012 at 12:46 am

    I want to say some thing about the backbiting. Actually the backbiting is going on at BOD’s meetings for months. Some of the BOD’s including V.P. are bad mouthing Br. Mansoor behind his back. That’s what you call backbiting . Some of the things they are saying about him are not true at all. That falls in the catogry of Bohtaan. Which is even worst than backbiting. If some Board member try to stop them they all team up against him or her. Some Board members sit through this silently and probably think they are not part of this. They are commiting the sins as well by not speaking up and try to stop that.

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    • I don’t know what you learned growing up but I was always told that two wrongs don’t make a right…You can’t fight fire with fire, or you will get burned

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      • Posted by Anonymous on December 12, 2012 at 10:09 am

        Br. Abdullah, you are right. You don’t fight fire with fire. You should use fire extinguisher to keep it from spreading so you don’t have to call the Fire Fighters. If you don’t put off the fire right away, chances are you and your love ones will get burn. You learn these things while you are growing up and with experience . I hope you got it. I am sure Mr. V.P. and his buddies got the massage and let’s stop arguing about it and move forward.

  20. Posted by Anonymous on December 4, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Guys lets not forget it is a Islamic/Religious organization . We are playing too much politics here. Including BOD/BOT should keep on reminding ourselves that all this work is being done for Allah’s sake. Let’s not make it personal and not keep on bringing personalities and eagos in this. By doing that we loose all the reward and the blessings of Allah (SWT).

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  21. Posted by He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named on December 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    This post and many of the comments diminish both Br. Mansoor and Br. Majid and diminishes the stated purpose of this blog. The recent election results represent a huge step forward for the community. This type of discourse takes us two steps back.

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  22. Posted by Anonymous on December 5, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Sr.Ann we are now bored with this post and the comments, I think Mr VP is the hopeless case, he needs serious medical help, thats it.
    So please write some thing new!

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  23. Posted by Anonymous on December 12, 2012 at 12:18 am

    ASAK. Br. Abdullah now you sound little like Majid Khan. You are getting personal . I don’t know how grown up you are but we are living in a different kind of world. I am sure you heard about Drone attacks. You don’t fight fire with fire any more. It comes a time when you have to drop a Drone to get rid off the ????

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  24. Posted by Anonymous on February 15, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Is it fair to make any opinion by listening one party? These blogs are meant to just create promote hate, divide the community further. Did you guys ever realized that how many of us avoid coming to Masjid, as one party request to sign with out explaining the real purpose and other give calls to confirm that did you really sign.

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  25. Posted by Anonymous on February 15, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    I got back to this blog after a long long time. I read the VP’s emails. My instant reaction was Oh my Lord !!! I dont know the VP personally but for some strange reason I perceived to him be an intelligent person. His emails confounded me. His emails displayed an utter lack of respect towards someone older than him. It’s been a while since I read emails that displayed such incoherence, unintelligent jargon and irrational exuberance. He wasnt making any sense and I almost wanted to ask what is he smoking. Br. Majid, if you are reading this; I would like to say you are much better than this. Get your act right before congregants start thinking that you have simply lost it. My apologies if this is too harsh, but sometime you need to rattle people to get some action, in this case i’m seeking inaction from you. Be a Man & Move On….

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